January 7, 2015
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111 total words
Clues are up
thanks lickety
thank you
hi Lickety and thanks
Hi Mary and pcal2, nice to see you in chat
hi all! hi flosey, mary, pc
ty lickety
hi Dee
gosh .. if there were just a few more n's
pr t
or t's lol
not going to be easy
gn4
is7
NBT/NBS
gn us
it takes one to gn u one
Hi all :)
hi liz!
no8
anyone call the 8?
ty ru looking
finished
Congrats, Ru
nicely done, ru!!
terrific ru!
FWs
no 8, Dee
Congrats, Diz
ruru - that gn was past tense, you can't have u one unless it's today. So I can't see how you finished, but congratulations anyway. And Dizgn too
Dee, it is a flightless NZ bird
ty
found it, ty vm diz. Congrats, diz!
It's a Flanders and Swan song
not their swan-song ... they had lots more
I was shooting for my fourth groan jw.. erda failed me
I noticed the exchange. It was grn-worthy
I'm collecting groans for my new year's resolutions
we won't fail you ru
I'm worried about failing myself :D
Seriously though, if you've never heard F&S do their "I'm a _ _ _" song, you need to check it out, just for the tickle.
never heard of flanders and swan...
they ARE funny!
of the two.. was the swan guy the one who got down?
I make take a gander at them soon then
tiny url came out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPgo6s\n1l Bbw
The sung in pigeon english
I agree - they're funny.
could they carrier a tune?
or did they squab-ble a lot?
Doing well on the groan factor :)
nah - they were exstinked
:D
can I count that one liz?
Yup
YAY
:)
Squabble got a big groan!
ha
LOL
It's a great game, Squabble
:)
firworks
fireworks :)
great for you Dee!
thks, saan!
firworks are the ones that stay green all winter. Hoo-ray Dee
LOL, thx, jw
yw - Somewhere in the world tonight, the grunyon are running. (they're my phantoms)
Well, I am off til the flip! Wondering how much more snow we are going to get :)
Don't get too flaky Dee. See ya
lol... good one :) ttfn
too tired tonight, 22 to go and I'll have to get them in the morning, goodnight all
I wonder if she caught your drift jw
bon matin mes amis...
{{hugs}} sprite. how was your night? and more importantly...lol...did the boyo do the dishes?
I slept lots of hours, dreamt of war and concentration camps, and no he did not, the ass.
ks killed. Hah.
tell him i'm coming after him....with a feather...i'm gonna tickle him into submission. * sigh *
lol
well at least I feel a little better today. How are you today, darling? Just read your email, busy day for you.
yeah....all good except the knee is achy after the long drive back. settled now, thanx heavens. glad to flu is on it's way out.
ugh...the...
ah, good news. We are ever so grateful when the extra pain subsides, aren't we, lol.
i don't know how it does that? head faster than fingers, or vice versa?
automated series of key strokes, sweetie. 'glad to hear' is what your fingers were doing.
just the bed to be made up with clean linen...and i am done.
very good! Ask Don to help. Much easier with two people.
oh dear, sprite....you are reading my mind....let me know if anything intelligent surfaces please?
lolllll
am sipping my first coffee and nursing a bad headache (not as bad as yesterday though). How much intelligence are you expecting?
just enough to tie my shoe-laces would be good.
now that, I can manage
gee thanx...
*hmmm left over right... right over left...*
which is the right, which is the left?
good question. And who are you kidding? Let me run out of lace just to discover your shoes are already laced? You just need to untie them, silly!
for that matter what is right and left? and if you take away the right, what is left?
one of my favorite quotes: I finally found out what is wrong with my brain. On the left side, nothing is right. And on the right side, nothing is left.
oh i love it....roflol
to untie laces, just pull on the end not in a loop...
i give up....i'll wear flip-flops instead
good call. My feet are still bare. Unless you count a warm snoring little dog.
can i call a friend? or do i have to ask the audience?
awww, dear Terra, bless him. * special pats later when awake*
good question. Always a little risky, asking the audience. They tend to pull loose a whole lot more than you ask for.
will do, grin. He is such a darling. When I come downstairs for my meds, he jumps off the couch and walks upstairs to his bed under my desk. And if I take too long coming up, he will call me.
oh dear! south australia fires...such a large loss of property. no human lives...but a lot of animals...native and domestic. one poor koala has lost it's fur and was very dehydrated.
am so sorry to hear that
rose, please tell me the stats of the 8? I found the 7!
part of living in the ' sunburnt country' i guess. but as aussies, we are pretty resilient. our firey's are such wonderful people.
no8/40, sprite
thanks darling. And you aussies are wonderful people all over. If I had to do my life all over again, I might take my chances in aussie land :)
sprite, love, i am sure there is a part of aussie land where you would be able to live comfortably.
we have such a diversity of climate and environments.
I think so too, rose. Well, who knows. I sure hope we can come and visit you some day. And Liz. And some spots in between, lol.
no visit, immigrate....i would sponsor you all.
that would rock, rose. But I am afraid they don't want me, with my handicaps.
nasty red tape....let me at it....* fists flailing wildly*
ok I give. Could you please clue the no8 for me?
well I can always decide to come illegally, lol. Visit you and never return.
oh lo and behold! I may be hearing a miracle. I hear sounds of kitchen being worked in... and son just rolled out of bed... could it be?
a rare flightless gallinulelike bird of new zealand. no + rent as in pulled to pieces + middle bit of unmarried woman's title, m**s
*fingers crossed*
awesome! Thanks rose, good clue. And my something new learned from babble for today!
ohhhh pretty colours!
WTG SPRITE!!!!
lol, with a good clue it is easy :)
i hope i didn't dumb it down too much.
oh yes oh yes! I am definitely thinking dishes are being done! Just heard the front door opening... and Tim going out to the garbage bin... *happy dance*
hey, with my intelligence levels this morning I could use some dumbed-down clues, lol. And yours wasn't, it was a good clue.
whoot!! tell tim he is restored in my esteem...no feather needed.
hehehe will do :)
that Y gets a good workout today. I like it.
oh good heavens!! sprite!! how can you type with your tongue in your cheek, like that? oh yeah...it's easy done.
lol
fireflies. Good grid.
oh, hin....turkey now subject to suicide bombers. when will it end?? and the australian government has issued travel alerts for asian countries...and where is my dopey brother?
aw sweetie, how worrisome. Will hold him in my prayers.
ahhh, before was pics...now is the fireworks!! still i say...WTG SPRITE!!!
am gonna answer your email, darling. *hugs* and sleep well, in your clean bed.
thanx sprite.
hugs and kisses to you, sprite. hope your day is kind to you. xoxox
or
*giggle* mari...only one or...or5/10, hin.
what are the stats for the 7, please?
is7/36, marc
could I get clue granny for the is7, please?
is + circle + he has **** to work. alternative word for went.
thanks got it
yay, marc
easy with your great clue
;-)
gee, we could use some n's!
and Good Morning!
{{rosie!}}
*explosive laughter* {{hugs}} ruby.
un6, please?
un + ripped
hello diane and thanks
thanks Dianne
Hi ruby and marc
How about the first un6?
hello Dianne how is everything?
c'mon Marc, there can't b another!
Altogether now lets do this in UN6!
Yes there is another un6 3 before the last un6
{{zzoozz}} how cold is it?
Thanks zoozzzoom got it
That was a clue for the first UN6 by the way.
nice clue, tks, zzoozz
hello hello
Not cold here, Ruby :-)
Hello, Annie :-)
{{annie}}
Should be having gales here by tomorrow.
Frost this AM but still no more snow, so that's a good thing
g'day zooz and annie
hi ((ruby)) and zooz...cold here
Hello, Rose :-)
hi rose :)
rc, it is 04:16am in IOWA you should be in bed..lol
I keep seeing unsu**
finally raining in earnest here. the summer storm is still happening.
MArc*
that is wonderful, rosie!
yes it is, ruby
Its 5:17 am in nyc
Do you have lots of snow too, Annie?
too early, annie
it has been stifling here today...thank heavens for fans and a/c.
ould be in bed too, Annie!
I know, I got up and a 4 am and that was it. Happens a lot.
half but must see to old Burt!
ooohhh!!! dianne...hello my dear
That is horrible when that happanes, Annie :-(
hopefully see you later dearest ruby. if not...xoxox
and annie is a phantom!
*woof*
does not happen that often to me. bUt not nice when it does.
I'll sleep longer tonight
Teehee! Good idea :-)
i was naughty...stayed up until after 1:30am last night, then himself started his usual nocturnal serenade at 5 am...i read until just after 6am, then slept to after 9am once i took my pain meds. then we had a pretty busy day..
You must be ready for your bed then, Rose.
*sigh* bed still not made up with it's fresh linen...
I find disturbed sleeping patterns like that make me non responsive during the day and in serious need of naps..lol
and yes i am zooz...going to poke himself until he gets off his chair...
tr6, please?
I need that one too, Marc :-)
tr6, horse's gait , tr4/4 + sometimes vowel + first letter of not hate
Oh another name for TNT
thanks granny would have never gotten that on my own
thanks, Rose :-)
smarty pants zooz.
i am thinking it is a boy thing....lolol
Not smart..found word from your clue..then looked up the DEF :-)
shush zooz....you are smart....
Burt is pacing around and driving me crazy!
awww ruby....is there nothing you can do to distract him?
short of doing a dance in front of the fire (it's not gonna happen!), there is nothing
like send him out for a tin of striped paint, or a long wait(weight)?
Need to get going for the day.Toodle pips. Nice to see you all :-)
I can't let him drive any more, beyond the post office and even that is scary
enjoy, zooz, mate. xoxox
bye zzoozz
bye zooz
poor ruby...it is so difficult...
It could be worse LOL
hold onto that thought, my darling ruby.
going to make coffee
enjoy, annie
save me a cup
not for me at this time of the night...
unless....is it fresh coffee?
70 words but nothing bigger than a 6. Back aFTR LUNCH
*REAL WOOF*
xoxox ruby. i don't think i'll be here.
no6, please?
*pours rose a fresh cup of coffee*
no6, prefix no*, meaning not + to employ something os someone
ugh...or...
again, thanks, rose
lol....see what a cup of fresh coffe does?
thanks got it
*eye roll* coffee....my excuse is that it is nearly bedtime.
yay you marc and annie
It might keeep you awake, rose, better not drink coffee this late
*giggle* not the fresh stuff. the instant is lethal. i am hanging from the light-shades at 3am.
I dont drink instant coffee, dont like it
ugh, K's
annie, i need it first thing in the morning...after that only freshly ground beans.
I have 2 cups of fresh coffee in the AM and sometimes another during the day
annie, only 7 x k words. they are all ones we have seen/used before.
just need 2 more K's, will come back to the killer k's
annie, kn4/9???
have that one
aha! K's killed
ki 6 was my last K
whoot, annie. nicely played
:)
going to the kitchen for another cup of coffee
is the loo on the way???
back, no, rose, the loo is the other way
It is 6:12 am here and still pitch dark
rose, has the heat abated a little where you are?
it is 10:14pm here.....
yes annie....for which i am so thankful...
I can handle cold weather but heat does me in
annie.....ditto me.
rose, sweet dreams.
hope you have an amazing day, annie. nighty-night. xoxox
Good morning from the great White North! tis minus 30 with the wind chill this morning and we are due for more blinding snow squalls off the bay!:) Guess I have to cancel my skinny-dipping plans:(
Hi Crossy - so winter finally set in.
Yup:)
Sympathy!!!!
it is not so bad. I no longer need ice cubes to keep my drink cold:)
crossy, sounds like you could use a sauna
And I have not been bitten by a mosquito all month:)
True but think about all the extra electricity to heat a kettle!!! Or maybe not.
ha
Funny you should say that. also haven't been bitten by a mosquito recently - and that's unusual. They seem to like my English blood.
Do you have to go outside a lot?
lol, they love my thick limey blood as well
lol
Not too much today,jwr. Just have to drive to classes and a meeting in the afternoon, folowed by a DDS appt for the mrs
but no shoveling snow? chopping ice off the sidewalk>
Well, other than scraping all the ice and snow off the car, no. I have someone else to do the driveway and sidewalks
good for you. I've been remembering all those winter chores (Colorado), but also the after-snow world: crystal clear skies, powerful sunshine that sucked the snow off the roads, crispy crunchy walking sounds, the way voices are amplified.
16 left for tomorrow. Not seeing any more words right now. Have a good day.
Bye Liz
I'm one past half - that's my stopping point. Stay warm and dry, Crossy. Hold out for the chinook winds (if you get those in February).
Sadly, we do not get those warm Chinooks this far east:(
n eon
We must dig in till spring thaw now:)
ok... now I have seen everything:( They are now marketing candy for kids that is designed and packaged to look exactly like crystal meth...
what is wrong with companies??
Makes the candy cigarettes we had as kids look pretty tame.
one evil for a newer one
Good morning
Well to be fair, they have been making rock candy for years. The blue stuff has probably gotten popular since Breaking Bad.
But packaged in test tubes and offered in evidence bags with police evidence locket tags on them is pushing it a bit :)
locker
But they would not offer it if there was no market for it i suppose.
The most amusing item I have seen is the Bathing Bad blue bath crystals, complete with the periodic table logo from Breaking Bad.
clue for no5/14, anyone?
Ends with the last three of what LP records are made of
As in what you play on a record player
thanks molly
The word was in yesterday's grid also. We are getting a lot of repeats lately, especially the littlest one of the litter. I think that has been in several recent grids.
stats for the bottom E pls
eo 5/10
eo 5
ty
good morning friends
Good morning, Babblers. And a special prayer goes out to our friends in France.
Yes, nasty business over there.
Killing people over cartoons. Thanks again, radical Islamists!
Yes, the insanity continues.
apparently a white supremacist also attempted to bomb an NAACP office in CO yesterday but some gasoline failed to ignite so the explosion ended up being minor and nobody was hurt.
Read about that too, JJ. There are haters everywhere.
hi all
Hiya, JMC!
i don't mind haters so much if they didn't have access to weapons. . . then the hate just harms them
i actually have more symptathy for the muslims in this instance. i mean, they are mad about images of mohammed, rather than just someone's mere existence.
it seems like a teeny teeny bit less stupid.
"There is nothing in this life that is so serious that there isn't an element of humor in it" rev. Dietrich Bonhoeffer from Nazi prison
right well *i* think that and *you* think that but i recognize that some people in the world have trouble with it...
right because 11 lives are a fair payment for a sacrilegious act. . .
i don't know, maybe muslims are allowed to like, TELL jokes about mohammed, they just can't DRAW him? or is all humor banned?
And yet, the same magazine managed not to be attacked by Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, etc. The magazine makes fun of all religions. The radicals feel thatthey must exact violent revenge against those who offend their prophet. WACKOS!
i am not suggesting that i think you are supporting their action. . . just suggesting that they may have had some basis for the act. . .
*you are* just suggesting etc.
no of course i don't support it. i just think... i don't know what i think. i think that from a Western value system ALL of it is stupid. but if we fail to recognize that they have a different value system... i mean the old adage is "know thy enemy", right?
i never heard a joke from any of my muslim friends about the prophet. . . .and there are acceptable non-humor pictures of him . . .
no that can't be right, non-humor pictures - it's totally not allowed to have any image of him
but when you combine the image with the humor i guess it's that much worse?
There is no excuse for intolerance of satire, humor and the opinions of others. There's this thing called "peaceful protest". If you don't like it or are offended, march, write a letter. Don't shoot people or blow things up.
hi all. nice to see we can talk about hot button issues without blowing each other up!
i just figure that since what we want is for people of all different types to live in the world in peace, our best chance of getting there, getting people from other cultures on board with that, is to start by understanding where they are coming from, so we can find common ground in order to make progress.
i understood that is what you are saying but it is a slippery slope. . . i have friends--women friends--who think we should tolerate clitirus (sp?) mutilation because "its their value system" yet they would never accept slavery even if it was acceptable according to religious doctrines (including Christian mind you)
haha hi book we usually can. . . . *hides uzi*
no, i am not saying we tolerate these things, just that we understand where they are coming from. if i know where you are coming from, i have a much better chance of "speaking your language" and persuading you effectively to behave differently.
wow the spelling errors are truly abundant in that last comment of mine. . . haha
whenever i hear people (Murricans) lumping all Muslims together, i remember that the Ku Klux Klan does not represent Christians any more than terrorist Muslims represent Muslims
luckily nobody here has been doing that gwen :)
you are absolutely right joseph. . . there is actually an entire field of study about that called conflict transformation. . .
i just like saying it 8 - )
The problem is, JJ, that radical Islamists do not want to understand or co-exist with those who do not believe that Allah is the only God. It is their way (strict adherence to their interpretation of the Koran) or expulsion from society and/or death.
i mean i guess it's similar to how the actual interrigators say that torture doesn't work
interrogators?
yes that looks righter
haha glad i am not the only one with a bad case of typonese
if your goal is good data, then no, it doesn't work. however, if your goal is terrorism, it works great
sure, there will always be radicals who refuse to change in any way and are crazy. but, when we act like their whole culture isn't worth understanding then the radicals have an easier time getting the MODERATES to tolerate their violence.
.. .and the moderates may become more radical. . .
there are radicals and crazies on the fringe of every movement and organization. the danger is assuming that they speak for the whole movement
Moderates = easily corrupted, uneducated, easily radicalized... sheep.
haha not all moderates. . . that is what i consider myself
now that we have solved the world's problems: stats for the right hand column O please
or lumping in moderates with sheep, that's a bit harsh
both those Os are empty -- you mean left clumn?
or5/10
er. . . left. . . .
actually there is some sociological basis for believing the center is swayed. . . .
There are good Muslims. This is a fact. However, most Muslims live in fear of speaking out or condeming acts of terror committed by those who also claim to be Muslims. This fear is part of the weapon of radical Islam.
well it's partly harsh and partly accurate. i think most moderates will generally opt for doing nothing, staying out of the fray. but, if radical elements are in power and order them to do things (ie nazi germany) they can be easily made to do things that they wouldn't on their own - as the milgram electric shock experiments showed.
a moderate is one who has a position. you are talking about the apathetic
momomomwowowowororororotototot
well when you're looking at a distance at a whole society, they can be hard to tell apart
tesing keyboard, oops
historically before wars the majority of the population opposes war. . . in the last few months before a war, after a certain amount of whipping up by the powers that be (including Goering mind you--i am not bashing the US here) more and more people become in support of the war. . . after the war begins the vast majority support it until it go** on for several years and then gradually people begin to oppose war again. . .
just fixed the O key and it works, hooray
teasing? ;-)
i like the new word, gwen
They are only moderate until they swing one way or the other. I don't even like the term "moderate". It is not terribly descriptive of one's true views.
i always found that historical fact interesting
no, i was Tasing the keyboard LOL
wtg book
haha
fascists are very good at controlling public opinion. nazis and bush ii administration, both did very well. remember the "Terror Alert Scale" ??
So while we've been having this discussion has anyone found the 7 or the 8?
it lasted until everyone noticed it was always on orange alert. . .
hi all. help with left column O pls
no, i was tasing things
i was too busy trying to write deep chatter. . . :)
O: do you like eating a C****H game hen?
to be fair, they did actually change the Terror Alert level several times, but it never went al the way down to "green"
ty jj
0r5/10 i was told peri
got it jmc
ty joseph
It's hardly fair to compare nazis and facicsts with the Bush administration. The Terror Alert Scale was in direct response to the terror attacks of Septemter 11th. As was the creation of the Department of Homeland Security.
when Christians get together and try to pass laws that ban early abortion, or gay marriage, or flag burning, I don't think they represent all Christians either
well i do think that the equation of bush with the nazi's is a little harsh but we did loose a lot of freedoms in the name of security. . .
*lose
actually, almost nothing the bush admin did was in direct response to 9/11
Security, by it's very nature, restricts freedom.
*sigh* i should just shut up. . . my spelling is so bad today it even annoys me. . .
well personally molls i prefers the freedom. . . .
on the day after the attack, they started blaming saddam hussein. they were delusional from the start
I for one don't mind waiting a little longer in security lines at the airport. I don't mind having security cameras in subways and other public places. I don't commit crimes, so I have nothing to hide. Do I want to be watched all the time? No. Do I feel more secure? You betcha.
back to the grid for me
I believe Judi said that The Department of Homeland Security and The Terror Alert scale were in response to September 11th.
Yeah. I've raved long enough to BDG. Time to sip some coffee and take some deep breaths.
i don't feel more secure. . . the whole shoe thing is scientific BS. . . guns continue to get on planes. . . and members of the Homeland Security often take advantage of their position. . .
sorry if you need deep breaths over the conversation. . . i thought it was interesting. . .
i will behave. . .
And yet, there are so many terror plots that have been thwarted. I know this for a fact because I work in a police station and we get bulletins from FBI, CIA, Homeland Security, etc. etc. The extra security has and still DOES work.
*deep, calming breaths*
Sadly, we never hear about the ones that were thwarted because that is not the incendiary stuff the liberal media likes to print
hahahahahahahahaha
Amen to that Molly. If it doesn't bleed, it doesn't lead.
that doesn't make sense
the government and fox news would have plenty of incentive to publicize thwarted attacks
There have been some press releases over the years. Plot to bomb a bridge in Cleveland, plot by terrorists to enter the US from Canada, plotters captured in Buffalo, NY. There are many, many more.
I believe most people pay attention to those types of reporst (and they damn well should). However, people have longer memories about more sensational type news.
well that's nobody's fault, just human nature. and it cuts both ways.
It's just human nature to pay attention to the gorey, lurid and violent goings on of the world.
And Kim Kardashian's butt. Who doesn't want to know about that?
So... 7 or 8? Nobody?
Is7.
No8.
Great thank you
Time for a break. *POOF*
I suppose NO8 starts with NON but then you could add almost anything
does NOT start with non
CANNOT FATHOM NO8 - idiot's clue please
me too!
ok i got it from morewords.com
NO + ripped + form of verb to be
it is no* true that the earth is the fourth planet from the sun + OR5
ooohhh . . . no + ripped + he punched him with his f**t
ty
It's fun when we all think of different clues
:-)
but at least they all agree :)
that does help
Does it come from top n?
yes
uh, yes i think it does
Phew!
First column o?
ty jj and une
Violent cluing?
or5/10
Une has been watching too many Taken movies
ru you are falling down on the job. . . only 4 groans and its already 7 days into the year!
I know jm. It has been a tough crowd
jmc clue please?
tssk
OR 5 - last part of ripped + form of verb to be
a c*****h game hen
Not from lack of trying however.
clue stolen from jj
well i am glad you are making efforts. . .
ty wv
yvw
so if i come to the SF area this spring (it's there or Houston) would I be able to get drinks with you and kje?
Sure
of course!
:) that weighs in favor of SF. . . .
5th column bottom e stats or clue please?
i have been falling down on my meeting babblers task lately. . . .
EO 5/10
eo5/10, mlf
Thats everyday for doc..so i can come along for the ride
ty kje
nb t
nbt
too cryptic. . . no wonder there aren't more groans. . .
fw for me... I'm off to work - hagd all
wtg mlf!
wtg kje! nice to have seen you
ty jmc
That wasnt pun intended..i just like pulling kje's chain
stats for any 6 please?
in 6/21
UN6/21
UN 6/21 x2 in fact.
TR 6/24
ty i found a un 6/21
is 7 clue please?
Oj's glove beginning plus to have left
Oj is starting to looking as creepy as Bill Cosby these days
I used to love the pilbury adverts, Ru..lol
is NO 8 a common word?
I need to get one for my dash board
Depends if you are an avid bird lover, Mlf.
That would be cool, Ru!
No is common if you don't fly in New Zealand
So is yes common if you do fly in New Zealand :-)
I thought it was flightless?
The bird is.
I was just being silly with the words No and Yes..don't worry.Just my silly sense of humour ;-)
Oh
*Lead Balloon* Moment.
Well i just fell on my platypus
Antisnog- Someone against mouth to mouth kissing :-)
Poor thing. hope it's bill is OK!
its*
Would like to add one to Ru's groan collection re the platypus.
Beginning to think I have a weird sense of humour!
That's a good thing Zooz.
definite plus.
I agree, Hego :-)
:D
Beginning?
Lol
Ahh shut up you!
:-)
what do you call a feline twirling a dish on a stick?
Ha
no idea Gwen
Don't know, BDG...What?
a platy puss !!
LOL
groooan.
LOve it!
(takes a deep bow with flourishes and goes back to the grid)
waving
BDG question about books for you..What is the difference between a collectors edition and a normal edition..Bought a copy of Angie Sage Septimus Heap Fyre the other day and it is a fisrst edition collectors edition. But As far as I can see it looks no different to the normal edition?
I know about the first edition part..just could not see any difference between so called normal and collectors edition.
zoozzoom, there is no *exact* definition for "collector's edition" -- it's a term any publisher can slap on any book. sometimes it means that it was manufactured with better materials, or special illustrations, or something like that, but there is no guarantee
did you try Google?
Interesting Gwen.
Thank you, BDG I thought that was going to be the case.
also, DO NOT assume you have a first edition just because it says it's a first edition. There are MANY times when this is not true either. Yes, there are some unscrupulous (or lazy) publishers out there who do this
eah tried, Google, Hego. But there are so mnay different outcomes, I could not make heads or tails of it.
We don't need them, we have Gwen. :)
best thing to do with it, if you really want answers, is to take it to your local used book dealer. In most cases you can get a free appraisal (not a formal, written one, just verbal) from a reputable used book dealer
I agree with you entirely about the first edition part. The shop selling it said it was a 1st/1st but to me the ISBN seems to tell me a different story.
may i ask the title, author, and publisher? i might be able to give you more definite info if you are willing to share
Good idea, Gwen. will do that with some of my 1st/1st editions of the harry potter books i have.
*Wins bet with self*
(oh dear) you should be aware that only a Harry Potter "1" will have any significant value in a first edition. the later vols not so much
Author: Angie Sage; Collector's edition Septimus Heap Fyre. Publisher Bloomsbury ISBN 978 1 4088 37726
harry potter "7" had a first printing of something like 12 million units. Just sayin'.
also 13579108642
okay, gimme a sec
I was told that the numbers for it to be a first edition should read either 12345678910 or reverse of that.
I bet with you, Molly..lol
It is also signed by the author too.
appears to be a title that was published in 2013. so, you can't rule it out for having an isbn. thed had isbns in 2013.
It is also hand written o a page that it is 142 out of 1400...What ever that is supposed to mean.
zoozzoom, i think you are mising up the isbn with the number line
I was told the number line tells you if it is a first edition or not..is that not the case?
okay, zoom, you have a *limited edition* of 1400 and your book is #142. this is the same as having a number and signed artist's print
I know soe books will just say First inseie.
inside*
okay, first fact you need to know is, every publisher indicates first editions in its own way.
Yeah i can understand that..lol
your signed, limited edition is better than a first edition. in fact, it is not even on the same level as a first edition. so, keep it clean and dry and safe.
every tiny bit of samage will lower its valyue. do not eat while you read it, do not use it for a cup holder
(damage, not samage)
I will..Thank you, Gwen. I am a bit fussy with my books. I even try and keep the humidity the same..lol A bit over the top but I love my books..lol
Stop laughing you lot out there.
also, be aware, your unit may well have the same isbn as the trade edition (the regular edition). this is unimportant. you have the limitation statement and the author's autograph.
You have been most helpful, Gwen. Sorry for taking you away from your babble time. But it was much appreciated!
once an author gets to be famous (as determined by that author's publisher) they often make a signed, limited edition at the same time as the trade edition. for stephen king, for example, there is a signed, limited edition of just about all of his titles. they are valuable because they are limited to only 1400 (or whatever) copies
(and of course signed by the author)
no, i'm happy to help. 8-)
I get a copy of a catalouge for rare books and some of those inside advertised are going for around £40 thousand plus!
a bit out of my price range!
LOL you and be both then, Gwen!
But i love looking through it none the less.
most i ever paid for one book was $250
(and I will be happy to part with it for $500) LOL
Well that is your profession so yeah I can understand you wanting to part with it for a better price..lol
Do you ever get books in that you kind of miss when it finally sells?
I have a few first editions.. it's kind of fun to own some
most of 'em, yeah
*wonders if Gwen pets her books*
i should point out that i do mostly nonfiction, and in nonfiction, the question often is, do you have the newest edition
or gives them each their separate rooms
Yes i agree, Ruru. It is very hard to try and explain to people why you love books so much..lol
Way over the top, Ru! lol
books are knowledge. knowledge is power. in a good way, of course
I know, Gwen, I have looked on your website :-)
Ditto, Gwen!
OK I have took up a lot of the chat log..Diving back in to find some of these hiding words.
and i'm off, orders to fill . . .
Thanks once again, Gwen.
I need another n
Do you know which one you need?
no8?
no + ripped + last two letters of Mr Kringle's first name
I just watched the news, having had no idea about the Paris attack. I am sick about it
ruby i've been watching Al Jazeera all day :-(
BRB
Hello all
Howdy everyone. Just found out about the Paris terrorist attack. Sending out prayers to all affected, and I hope the people responsible for this slaughter are caught soon so they may be held accountable for their crimes to the fullest extent of the law :(
hey crossy
howdy, une
What happened in Paris?
Newspaper attacked by gunmen. 12 people killed.
Do they know who did it?
http://www.cnn.com/
not that I've heard.
Molly - thanks.
CNN up till quite recently used to be my go-to for world news delivered electronically, but of late they have been swinging towards almost all-video format for their news reporting. I prefer a more electronic newspaper- style with pictures. I guess I am not quite ready to abandon a newspaper format just yet:/
Well, I am even more ancient. I still read a real newspaper every day.
I still enjoy what my son calls "dead-tree" papers:)
I am a great lover of trees, but I can still see the need for paper. It's all about replanting what gets harvested.
yes, it is all about replanting...assuming it is done properly.
Anyways, my mind is too fried from researching Elizabethan era playwrights today to deeply examine the pluses and minuses of newspapers and books v.s digital media.. think I shall grab a cuppa, and see how this grid plays out..brb
Marlowe, Beaumont, Fletcher, Middleton, and Jonson are going to drive me nuts:(... mmm.. tea...
...try Udall ... at least he was funny .... read "Ralph Roister Doister"
.. gotta go ... back later for the list ... luck to all
gunmen not yet arrested, but identified
Girl reporter Une, live from the scene...details at 11...
une, glued to al jazeera all day . . .
une, dreading taking pups out to pee -- already in teens . . . going down to arctic temps and staying there for a couple of days . . . brrrrrr
birds, chemicals, and foreign origins
tomorrow going to be wretched, but at least here it will calm down a bit after that
first un6 please? my last word . . .
but i guess words HAVE foreign origins..
first un6... all together now
ty paul!
no problem. congratulations on finishing.
oh i'm not a finisher, i only have 15 words, but i hope une will find the clue useful as well
tx paul -- FW! :-)
hooray une!
Une, same weather here. It's horrid.
whew -- all pups have peed -- quickly!! LOL That wind is really killer . . .
that's the bonus, they don't want to be out any more than you do
no kidding :-)
hello everyone
hi nan!
Hi all - Hi Nan - hope you're feeling OK.
hi liz -- still awfully sore, but the sugery went well.
Glad to hear the surgery went well. Now just hope that the healing is quick. Hopefully you've got all the medication you need to help with the soreness.
yes - have the meds
Well, don't try to be brave. Take what you need. But now I won't lecture - you don't need that!
have to balance it, liz -- anything with morphine or codeine gives me nausea, so I mix a 1/2 dose cocktail with gravol and hope to come up with something that minimizes the pain to tolerable levels without making me too sick.
Nausea is a good thing to avoid!
Are you home already?
also have a cryo-cuff that allows me to ice the area 24/7
That sounds really nice.
I think it certainly allows the healing to go at a faster pace.
I would imagine so - the cold should reduce swelling, I'd think.
yes - was discharged this am (4:33 pm here now)
Fireworks
grats liz
They must be really happy with you. It's much better being home. And thanks :)
Any clues before I go?
I'm off as well -- need to do some mobility exercises, then a snooze - the next 5 days can'
t go fast enough
Have a good evening and be well.
nan?
Wow, you know there are a lot of ignorant people in the world when the forecast is for temperatures below zero and the weather guy has to remind people to bring their pets inside.
yup....ours warned parents to dress their kids warmly....
i am done... :oD
It's been below 20 here today and I saw teenagers walking around in only hooded sweatshirts. Crazy.
same here....saw some adults with only a sweater on, too....i looked like Charley Brown....
I always laugh when I see people wearing ear muffs but no hat. No clue as to how much heat escapes their head.
I almost always wear knit hats in winter....i do NOT like getting cold...
Must be hard living in Maine if you don't like the cold.
it makes me appreciate the spring, summer and fall...
i had my glass of Dry Sac when i got home today....that helped!
Ah, a wee glass of sherry
yup....gets the chill out of my bones...
i just had a big bowl of chili. same effect, minus the headache
very cold here too. I will not go to my exercises classes tomorrow.
and we got some snow yesterday
i will, but only because I just joined a new gym and it will be practically on my way home - an extra two block walk, it's perfect!
i have to have my car serviced tomorrow and I have to go to a meeting at the new YMCA here....glad i bought those silk longjohns last week!
good long underwear is the best
in6 pls
So sad to get headaches from a good glass of something alcoholic.
yes...
i have two long underwear shirts, one silk and one not, and have been wearing them both under everything
well i am heading out.....my jigsaw puzzle is calling my name....
enjoy!
thanks....bye!
NM
helo folks
hello even
hiya peri
pippin, how is your job searching coming along?
still waiting to see if a couple schools invite me to interview, and still waiting to hear back from my dream school
I will keep my fingers crossed and will send positive thoughts your way too
it will be what it will be
i like luck and positive thoughts, thanks!
:)
first un6 pls
nm
Does anyone have a clue for the no 8, 40?
An no 8/40 word no + to 4/4 + the present tense of to be.
Lickety's clues won't load for me ... anyone else having that issue?
Hi minver!! thanks for the clue, I shall try to solve it.
nm they came up
ty minveryork!! Clue worked once i used the correct to/4!!
I jumped on 4/4 the computer and I su 4/9 my teeth in the grid when I got home from work. Took me ae 5/10 to do grid,but I am down to 3 words left. Now here is a story.Tonite we are in5/10duced to award season with the People's Choice Awards. I'm to4/4 over who should win best actor, Brad Pitt or Mark Wahlberg. However, I am un 6/21 over who should win best actress. I believe Angelina Jolie deserves to win the victo4/6.I'm looking forward to watching Golden Globe Awards. Who knows what nu5/16 stunts Tina Fey and Amy Poehler will pull I wonder if they had to ru 4/5 them into hosting again. I like watching these shows, however,I don't watch the To 4/6 Awards. Theater does not interest me.Out of all the award shows on TV, no 4/4 of them are as good as the Oscar Awards.Hubby has go4/6 into a rage over my babbling and is causing a ry4/6.He is yelling at me in a nasty to4/4 so I will give him a tu4/5 on the computer. I'm going to get off my an4/5 and go make myself a tu 4/5 fish sandwich for lunch tomorrow. Then I am going to watch "The People's Choice Awards" to see who will win best original so4/6 and other awards.I will be back here again tomorrow with my no4/4 buried in the grid
min you are so cute.
i need a clue for the 8 please and the 7. ty. need stats too for those.
which to4/4. min?
to4 - not together
is7/36
ty bea. any clues?
no8/40 see mins clue at 7:12
ty
to4 meaning apart?
nm
i got the no word and wow. that is a weird word i never saw before.
is7/36 - is + vowel + left
Yes, to.
to: past tense of what you do to paper: you can cut it or you can rip it or you can T*** it in half. past tense of the T***.
wow i dont get the left part of the clue. as in i left the party? or my left side? or liberal left?
i got the left. and the word. ty bea. left as in to depart........ty.
need two more clues please. the O word first column, second row please and the E word last column 5th row. ty.
i am struggling. that got me a 6,not a 7.
which word temple? the is 7?
is + vowel + after i have left the party, if someone says is she here, you say she is ****, long ****.
bea do you have the E word bottom rt. corner?
igot the o word. so nm that one. ty.
Hello 72 Temple Owl! What word can I help you with? I got 3 left.I am saving my last three words for later on tonight.
ty min but i need 35.
in
hi everyone
Hello cybernan! How are you doing today?Welcome to grid
in 6 please?
Min,ty for your story of clues;it was very helpful :)
yw crosshair
still looking for that in 6, if anyone has a clue, please
in + change direction
duh - ty tor -- and I curled for several years!
tr 6, please?
Happy New Year! (better late than never!)
tr6 = tr + vowel + beginning of ***enol (ibuprofen)
nm - found it
ty pini
yw ;)
happy new year to you too
Hello Pinikula! How are you doing? Welcome to the puzzle
hi min...been busy...new term at school...hoping this year starts better than it ended... ;)
Sorry Pinikula! Haven't seen you in awhile.What happened
no 6, please?
That no6/21 word is negative prefix plus utilize cybernan.
Is there anybody here to help me with my last 2 words. I've been stuck for quite some time and I need to go to bed.
ty min
is the no 8 a compound?
Not a compound
What do you need, Min?
a clue for the 8, please?
no8 = no + ripped + form of "to be"
ty tor -- would never have found that
*!* ta da *!*
see you in an hour if I'm still awake
yw nan - laters
Congratulations cybernan on your fireworks!Good for you!
Torgone,can I have a clue for sa 6/21 word please?Thanks
sa + cons. + 1st 3 of change direction
or 6th planet slightly mixed up
Thank you torgone! Can you clue the un6/21 word please?
Never mind! I just found the un6/21 word. Thanks anyway
I am finished! I have fireworks! un6/21 was my final word.
Does anybody still need any clues before I sign out of here
Yay Min!
I leave you with a story of clues in my profile.Goodnite all!
Niters Min ..
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